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	<title>Comments on: Why Orbited Doesn&#8217;t Suck</title>
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	<description>Blogging Comet Applications</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Laundry basket review</title>
		<link>http://orbited.org/blog/2007/06/why-orbited-is-great/#comment-18011</link>
		<dc:creator>Laundry basket review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt; ...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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		<title>By: ashamed</title>
		<link>http://orbited.org/blog/2007/06/why-orbited-is-great/#comment-4679</link>
		<dc:creator>ashamed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A year after this post and no update about fdajax...
The shame is that google still throw this page with fdajax fake content =/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A year after this post and no update about fdajax&#8230;
The shame is that google still throw this page with fdajax fake content =/</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jacob Rus</title>
		<link>http://orbited.org/blog/2007/06/why-orbited-is-great/#comment-2775</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Rus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m rather confused by this comment.  The comparisons here are 16-month-old comparisons between Orbited 0.2/0.3 and other Comet solutions.  You’d clearly only want to use Orbited if you need and are willing to deploy the network architecture of a Comet application.  If you aren’t willing to adapt your network to support real-time apps, then you aren’t the target developer for Orbited.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for app language though, Orbited—and particularly since 0.5—is completely language-agnostic.  Feel free to make your back-end server in any language you like: Java, C#, Ruby, whatever.  Installing Python and Twisted to run Orbited shouldn’t be too rough a requirement: both can be installed in a matter of minutes on any reasonable operating system.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m rather confused by this comment.  The comparisons here are 16-month-old comparisons between Orbited 0.2/0.3 and other Comet solutions.  You’d clearly only want to use Orbited if you need and are willing to deploy the network architecture of a Comet application.  If you aren’t willing to adapt your network to support real-time apps, then you aren’t the target developer for Orbited.</p>

<p>As for app language though, Orbited—and particularly since 0.5—is completely language-agnostic.  Feel free to make your back-end server in any language you like: Java, C#, Ruby, whatever.  Installing Python and Twisted to run Orbited shouldn’t be too rough a requirement: both can be installed in a matter of minutes on any reasonable operating system.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Don Juan</title>
		<link>http://orbited.org/blog/2007/06/why-orbited-is-great/#comment-2763</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jacob Rus:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think you should do better homework before making any comparisons  if anything you say is to be taken seriously.
Orbited is is all good for fun chat application, but would I want to use Orbited just so I can pretend I have a socket in the browser? 
Short answer: NO
Pushing Orbited as a server side solution for browser based-apps is a big strategic  mistake from business point of view. 
Application dependencies on libraries and frameworks is one thing, but having to  reconfigure  network infrastructure to accommodate Orbited on the server side to make things possible is quite another thing. 
 And of course you need to install Python ad Twisted too.....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And looking at Orbited's chat (live help) code, 30 lines of code for chat sounds like a grave understatement.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For me Orbited solution is no solution at all unless your app is based on Python, in other words Orbited is asking for too much. ( exception of python apps.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob Rus:</p>

<p>I think you should do better homework before making any comparisons  if anything you say is to be taken seriously.
Orbited is is all good for fun chat application, but would I want to use Orbited just so I can pretend I have a socket in the browser? 
Short answer: NO
Pushing Orbited as a server side solution for browser based-apps is a big strategic  mistake from business point of view. 
Application dependencies on libraries and frameworks is one thing, but having to  reconfigure  network infrastructure to accommodate Orbited on the server side to make things possible is quite another thing. 
 And of course you need to install Python ad Twisted too&#8230;..</p>

<p>And looking at Orbited&#8217;s chat (live help) code, 30 lines of code for chat sounds like a grave understatement.</p>

<p>For me Orbited solution is no solution at all unless your app is based on Python, in other words Orbited is asking for too much. ( exception of python apps.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jacob Rus</title>
		<link>http://orbited.org/blog/2007/06/why-orbited-is-great/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Rus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Grzegorz:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I've added an â€œupdateâ€ to the post, which should clarify that I had misunderstood the FdAjax minichat example.  I'll take a deeper look at FdAjax sometime soon.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grzegorz:</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve added an â€œupdateâ€ to the post, which should clarify that I had misunderstood the FdAjax minichat example.  I&#8217;ll take a deeper look at FdAjax sometime soon.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Michael Carter</title>
		<link>http://orbited.org/blog/2007/06/why-orbited-is-great/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 04:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Grzegorz Daniluk, please see my post linked in the above comment.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grzegorz Daniluk, please see my post linked in the above comment.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Orbited Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; FdAjax Security + Accusations</title>
		<link>http://orbited.org/blog/2007/06/why-orbited-is-great/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Orbited Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; FdAjax Security + Accusations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 04:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] comment post by Grzegorz Daniluk in which re responds to [Jacob Rus&#8217;s][jacob] post Why Orbited Doesn&#8217;t Suck. Here is the post by [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] comment post by Grzegorz Daniluk in which re responds to [Jacob Rus&#8217;s][jacob] post Why Orbited Doesn&#8217;t Suck. Here is the post by [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Grzegorz Daniluk</title>
		<link>http://orbited.org/blog/2007/06/why-orbited-is-great/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Grzegorz Daniluk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;FdAjax allows to send directly to other users a string or a number. Moreover even this option can be disabled. It is up to a developer what he will do with that string. This is completely different from what Jacob Rus claims about FdAjax here in this post.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On Refwell blog there is example chat application which uses direct user to user communication. Mr Jacob Rus, please provide a proof that you can do what you described in you blog post. Otherwise I'll have to treat your post simply as FUD.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FdAjax allows to send directly to other users a string or a number. Moreover even this option can be disabled. It is up to a developer what he will do with that string. This is completely different from what Jacob Rus claims about FdAjax here in this post.</p>

<p>On Refwell blog there is example chat application which uses direct user to user communication. Mr Jacob Rus, please provide a proof that you can do what you described in you blog post. Otherwise I&#8217;ll have to treat your post simply as FUD.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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